Global Warming/Weather Mod/Tornado Mod versus Skeptics

[TheeTFD]

5-30-06
...Global Warming and Atmospheric confusion
...The Las Vegas Review Journal did a story named "Global Warming the Skeptic View"
What I liked about the story is the introduction of all the big players in the atmospheric connundrum. And how I could relate it to tornado modification. The story is by Joel Achenbach.
...The story centers around Bill Gray and other entities of the G.W. concensus and caucus. Including:
The now disbanded Global Climate Coalition. It was front for oil, coal, car and chemical producers. They wanted to minimize G.W.
Pres. George Bush and his science advisor John Marburger
Al Gore
IPCC, International Panel on Climate Change
National Center for Policy Analysis, Sterling Burnett
NOAA's Isaas Held
M.I.T., Richard Lindzen
NASA, James Hansen
Authors Pat Michaels and Fred Singer
... The article says the skeptics scuttled the U.S.A. ratifing the Kyoto Treaty that would have committed the nation to cuts in greenhouse gas emissions. The article says some think the warming is a natural up-tick in the climate cycle. And most of the science is based on computer modeling of immense variables like:
convective forces
evaporation
wind
ocean currents
reflectivity of the earths surface [albedo]
But the modeling doesn't realistically include ice sheets or biosphere.
The article says the confict is amplified by economic considerations.
This article did not mention fluorocarbons. I guess we beat that.

[TheeTFD]

I saw Mr. Gores' movie today. And I see now what he is up against in delivering the bad news. Wow, Al G. has been monitoring Global Warming for 25 years. The article above identifies the forces trying to cancel Al's alarm.
...What I took from the movie is my own inconvient message. One, if G.W. is causing bigger hurricanes and more numerous tornadoes we might want to know how to defuse one. But I've said that all along.

...One of Mr. Gore's graphs was about pop. growth. According to him, there has been a very steady pop. growth for the last millenium, with about 1 billion people on earth, at any given time. But now in the epoch of my life time we will see the pop. go from 1 billion to 9 billion! What a logistics load for our leaders! What do we need with 9 billion people? What do we need 3 billion people for?

What was interesting about [from the moive] the atmospheric conditions is rainfall is usually in the same places. So the dry places get dryer. And the wet places will flood.
The U.S. automakers are LAGGING in producing efficient cars.
But then electric cars where not convenient to after market sales. [At least not for the manufacturer] Even though we would want one of each. Gas hi-performence for long rides and electric for around the town.

[Storm]

It won't hurt to be constantly prepared for the unforeseen forces of nature.

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(CNN) -- It sounds like something from the movie "Twister" -- teams of scientists in vans, armed with high-tech measuring equipment, barreling across the Oklahoma plains in search of tornadoes.


A V2 team measures a storm this week in the Texas panhandle.

more photos » But these scientists are colleagues, not rivals, and these storms aren't Hollywood digital wizardry but the real thing.

Welcome to VORTEX2, or V2 for short, the largest and most ambitious field experiment ever devoted to studying tornadoes. Now under way through June 13 in Oklahoma and surrounding states, the project brings together almost 100 scientists and students from 16 universities and research institutes.

VORTEX2 kicked off Sunday, and its teams didn't have to wait long to find the targets of their research. Violent storms tore through four Midwestern states Wednesday, killing three people in northern Missouri, according to Kansas City affiliate KMBC. The storms damaged dozens of homes and left thousands without power.

The storm chasers of VORTEX2 -- Verification of the Origins of Rotation in Tornadoes Experiment 2 -- try to learn how and when tornadoes form, and why some thunderstorms produce tornadoes while others do not. Researchers hope the answers to these questions will help increase warning times for those in the path of these deadly twisters. Watch VORTEX teams at work »

"Data collected from V2 will help researchers understand how tornadoes form and how the large-scale environment of thunderstorms is related to tornado formation," said Louis Wicker, research meteorologist with the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.

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Deadly storms rip through Midwest, South
V2 is a $11.9 million program funded by NOAA and the National Science Foundation, 10 universities and three non-profit organizations.

The project is a successor to the original VORTEX field program, in 1994 and 1995, that documented the entire life cycle of a tornado for the first time in history. The research helped improve tornado warnings by the National Wea...
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Neat, they started up Vortex2.

[katvira]

Is Global Warming really going to raise the sea level by huge amounts? I think that people don’t have to worry about global warming! Everyone keeps on saying that "The sea level will rise even more if the North + South pole melt just because of extreme heat off global warming" Even if they do melt by how much do you think land would disappear, maybe by about 5 meters! That’s nothing!
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[TheeTFD]

Well Kat,
I've heard so many sides to the argument I don't know what is real. You've got good minds on both sides so I guess the truth lies somewhere in the middle.
I've seen pictures of melted glaciers. But I doubt if Long Island, N.Y. will go under.
I think what is more important is how we treat and use Mother Earth. When we realized flourocarbons were eating away at the ozone we stopped using them. Gasoline engines are deemed dirty so they're trying to clean that up.
Reusing plastic waste [recycling] is a "green" help.

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